1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,280 There was a blue flame coming from his stomach, about four inch slit in his stomach, and it 2 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,800 was making a noise like a blow lump. 3 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Did this fireman witness a case of spontaneous human combustion? 4 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,480 For more than 40 years this American physician has been trying to discover the truth about 5 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,600 his mother's death. 6 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,560 How was Mary Risa reduced to ashes? 7 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:55,360 This log cabin remained unsinged while inside a retired fireman was consumed by flames. 8 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,360 Charles George Mott also a case of spontaneous human combustion. 9 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:06,800 Mysteries from the files of Arthur C. Clarke, author of 2001 and inventor of the communications 10 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,240 satellite. 11 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:15,240 Now in retreat in Sri Lanka he ponders the riddles of this and other worlds. 12 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,560 There's one mystery I'm asked about more than any other. 13 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,720 Spontaneous human combustion. 14 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Fires of course are all too common, but occasionally regaids like this one near my home in Colombo 15 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,480 are called out to deal with cases which baffle even the experts. 16 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,320 Apparently for no reason people have suddenly burst into flames. 17 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:09,400 Their bodies are almost totally consumed yet amazingly their surroundings are barely singed. 18 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:16,400 When I first investigated spontaneous human combustion the explanations seemed even more 19 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,080 fantastic than the facts. 20 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:25,200 However new evidence has now emerged so I'm returning rather reluctantly to this most 21 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,200 gruesome of mysteries. 22 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:38,120 And it still is a mystery. 23 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:44,720 We talk about the case today just like we did 20 years ago when I first started and 24 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,240 even in 1951 when the incident occurred. 25 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,680 A great deal of speculation, a great deal of conjecture, everybody has an angle but nobody 26 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,000 has the answer. 27 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:04,120 The bizarre death of this man's mother has kept Florida talking for 40 years. 28 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:10,360 In the bedroom of her wooden bungalow on that fateful summer night in 1951 Mary Reeser 29 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:15,080 kissed her son Richard goodbye. 30 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:24,080 To the young physician everything seemed normal. 31 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:30,720 At eight o'clock I remember the landlady who called me and said that there had been 32 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,600 a terrible accident. 33 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:37,240 She didn't go into details and that I was to come right down. 34 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:44,240 And across the way when we came down there were painters painting the house across the 35 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,520 street. 36 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:51,480 Then they were totally unaware that anything had happened in the apartment. 37 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:57,720 I was prevented from going in the room by I believe the fire chief who said that I shouldn't 38 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,400 see what is inside so I didn't go in. 39 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Of course I later saw what it was, what the picture was from photographs and descriptions. 40 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,560 My recollection is that I entered the apartment at the fire scene with a hand pump which is 41 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,440 a small tank of water that is maneuverable by hand. 42 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,200 Of course interior extinguishment. 43 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,800 And noticing a pile of debris in the center of the room I started to squirt it and was 44 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,800 stopped immediately by other people who had preceded me into the room. 45 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:42,080 It turns out that it was not just debris but part of a corpse of the lady who had been burned 46 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,800 to death unbeknownst to me. 47 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,880 It was just her foot and a shoe. 48 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,040 All that I recall seeing ever there. 49 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:58,840 It was an incredible, unexplainable thing to me then and is still now. 50 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:03,640 She was consumed almost completely. 51 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:12,280 Just what remained was a heel of her left foot and just a piece of the skull. 52 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:15,480 Just a little ash remains of her body. 53 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,000 Everything had been consumed. 54 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:30,040 The room was covered with a sort of a smoky, oily ash up to the level of about four feet 55 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,480 completely around. 56 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,760 But that was it. 57 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:42,080 The bed that had been turned down was undisturbed and ready as if it were ready to be slid. 58 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:52,200 The piece leapt in and the clock that was nearby had stopped running at about 4.20 in 59 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,400 the morning. 60 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,120 I believe Ms. Reeser was known to be a smoker. 61 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,080 So there was some speculation that possibly she dozed off or dropped a cigarette on her 62 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,800 clothing which initially started to fire. 63 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:11,160 But that still doesn't speak to how this total consumption occurred. 64 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:16,360 We have had many, many cases where people have fallen asleep smoking, burned their clothes, 65 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,760 in fact burned themselves and unfortunately succumbed to the fire, but never anything 66 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:21,880 like this. 67 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,720 I believe there probably was some type of external ignition source. 68 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Now what that was, I couldn't begin to speculate. 69 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:38,360 But I think in my mind what happened, Ms. Reeser's body began to burn much like when 70 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,840 we cook food. 71 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:45,080 And you can essentially cook food down to nothing by applying the proper amounts of 72 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,720 heat over the proper period of time. 73 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:54,960 Unusual as that may seem, I think the human body in this case actually became a fuel for 74 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:01,160 fire as opposed to just the recipient of heat-related injury. 75 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:09,280 The possibility of it being a spontaneous combustion arose and was written. 76 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:17,120 All kinds of theories were brought out such as even lightning that came through an open 77 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,240 window. 78 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:32,440 But there was nothing concrete and the fire people here had no explanation for it. 79 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,600 No one had any explanation. 80 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:41,800 And in looking back, I just think that no one ever knows how a person of her size and 81 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:55,160 weight, she weighed about 170 pounds, could be totally consumed by a fire that only involved 82 00:07:55,160 --> 00:08:03,280 a portion of her room, the chair, which was of course completely burned. 83 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:11,000 All that was left were some springs that were found near the ashes of her body. 84 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,240 Yes. 85 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:20,720 Like Richard Reeser, this man, Jack Stacey, is still gripped by a fire from the past. 86 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:26,120 On this spot in Lambeth, South London stood Auckland Street, the scene of the strangest 87 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:31,040 sight of his 30 years as a fireman. 88 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:38,920 The memory has brought him back to search the records at the Fire Brigades Museum. 89 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:46,760 We got the call at about 20 plus five in the morning and when we arrived, two or three 90 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:53,480 minutes down the embankment, there were about half a dozen office cleaners outside this 91 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Dillek building. 92 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,520 And they were pointing to the first floor and said, we think there's a fire in there 93 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:06,160 and sure enough, there was a flickering blue flame coming from the upstairs window. 94 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:11,560 Well, when we got up the ladder onto the first floor, there was a man's body laying on the 95 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:23,640 stairs and there was a blue flame coming from his stomach, about four inch slit in his stomach 96 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,120 and it was making a noise like a blow-lump. 97 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,600 And it was about eight inches long. 98 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,280 That was the first thing we saw. 99 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,400 A man came up the ladder with the hose reel and we actually put the hose reel inside the 100 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,400 man's body. 101 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,440 It was actually, he was burning from the inside out. 102 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,640 It was the most bizarre thing I've ever seen at a fire. 103 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,400 I think this is why I remember it so vividly. 104 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:53,520 I've seen bodies in fires before, but we've always been able to say, this happened or that 105 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,080 happened or we know how this started. 106 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,840 But this one, I'm afraid we didn't know and we still don't know and the cause of the fire 107 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,880 is still unknown. 108 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,960 The official cause of death by the coroner was the inhalation of fire films, suffocation 109 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,920 due to inhalation of fire films. 110 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,760 I have my doubts about that. 111 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,960 I have my doubts about that. 112 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:23,440 I think it is one of these human spontaneous combustion mysteries which we'll never solve 113 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,800 at the moment. 114 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,840 The moment the fire starts, the evidence is destroyed. 115 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,320 Firemen are used to things igniting spontaneously. 116 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:38,280 For example, haystacks can generate enough heat by fermentation to catch fire. 117 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:43,240 And I've even heard of a case in Britain of a laundry which was raised to the ground 118 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,960 when a pile of very dirty washing apparently went up in smoke on its own accord. 119 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,920 But people spontaneously combusting is quite another matter. 120 00:10:53,920 --> 00:11:00,160 In earlier centuries, that old scapegoat, alcohol, was blamed by investigators and popular 121 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,360 novelists. 122 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,400 The idea of spontaneous human combustion fascinated the Victorians. 123 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:14,520 In Bleak House, Charles Dickens chose it to dispose of a troublesome character. 124 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:19,320 Popular belief linked the phenomenon with excessive drinking and improving text-worn 125 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,880 drunks that they ran the risk of spontaneous combustion. 126 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,240 Mysterious research was scarce. 127 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,960 One sober report from Dr Mackenzie Booth in Aberdeen, Scotland couldn't explain how 128 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,960 a soldier was found burned up in a hayloft. 129 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,960 Yet straw inches away was untouched by the flames. 130 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:43,840 Despite increasingly lurid reports, science stood back until the 1960s. 131 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:49,200 Professor David G., then a young pathologist, was called in to investigate the mysterious 132 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,320 death of an old person. 133 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,120 She had fallen in the grate and been reduced to a pile of ashes. 134 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,480 She had burned almost completely. 135 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,360 Only a fragment of flesh and bone remained. 136 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,360 Professor G. wanted to discover how this could have happened. 137 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,320 He published an account of his audacious experiment. 138 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:15,760 I thought if I made a model that in one sense reproduced a body by using a glass test tube 139 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:21,760 which would provide a sort of central firmness and then wrapping it around with some human 140 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:28,360 fat and then putting around that a number of layers of cloth, perhaps five or six layers 141 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:35,560 to reproduce several different layers of clothing and ignited one end of it with a gas Bunsen 142 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:43,040 burner, it then burnt with a rather smoky flame and it took about three quarters of 143 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,120 an hour to burn down about six inches of model. 144 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:54,640 What was left was a very blackened charred remains that looked very similar to the body 145 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,680 that I had been examining. 146 00:12:56,680 --> 00:13:01,280 That it was like a candle only instead of having as candles do a wick down the middle 147 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:07,600 with the wax on the outside, this was really a candle with a wick on the outside and the 148 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,600 combustible material on the inside. 149 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:18,600 Today Dr. Siva Loganathan leaves his local butchers with a bag full of pork. 150 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:25,600 It's the material he needs to carry on experimenting where Professor G. left off. 151 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:35,080 The question Dr. Siva wants to solve is why do the victims' surroundings not burn as 152 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,200 they do? 153 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,840 I've taken some pork with a little muscle and some fat. 154 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:47,480 I've rolled it into a cylinder and then covered it with a cloth. 155 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:55,120 Now the idea being that the rolled up piece of meat would represent a human body and the 156 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,880 cloth would then represent the clothing on it. 157 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:05,440 When the fat melts it would then soak into the cloth and then that would continue to burn 158 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:10,840 exactly like a candle, excepting in this case the wick is on the outside of the fat as opposed 159 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,720 to being in the middle. 160 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:22,160 The bodies are found burnt and almost ashed with very little burning in the surroundings 161 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:29,040 and perhaps a little bit of the leg is left behind with almost a fairly well marked line 162 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,400 of demarcation. 163 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,520 We want to know why the rest of the surroundings didn't go up in flames. 164 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,960 We want to know why this progressive burning occurred. 165 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:46,400 This gives you as a fairly good working model as to how this whole process occurs. 166 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:54,800 The slowness of the process, the lack of violence of the flames proves to us that this is quite 167 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,480 a feasible explanation for this phenomenon. 168 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,440 I think essentially we'll find that when the body is burned in this sort of situation it 169 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:10,920 is only the melted fat that's burning and therefore the melted fat most likely would 170 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,320 continue to burn just about this same sort of level. 171 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,120 So the flames are not splurting out all over the place. 172 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:23,800 It is fairly well localized to a few inches around the body. 173 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,800 That's what's happened. 174 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:32,440 That's the skewer that I'm keeping in order to keep it stiff. 175 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,320 I don't think there's anything miraculous about it at all. 176 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,640 I think it's perfectly logically explainable. 177 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,400 So this experiment just shows that it is possible. 178 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,720 I haven't really done a complete body but this is the principle by which this whole 179 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:52,120 phenomenon occurs. 180 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:57,000 In the British Medical Journal comes a further clue in a report on a stomach operation by 181 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,880 Jonathan Earnshaw. 182 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,320 He was using electrical cutting equipment. 183 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:07,680 When I opened the stomach with the electrocortry device there was an explosion and the gaseous 184 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,800 contents of his stomach ignited and splattered stomach contents all over the ceiling light 185 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,760 and on those who were surrounding the operating table. 186 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,600 It was all rather frightening at the time and there was a blue flame and a sort of thump 187 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,400 and in fact the flame lasted for a second or two and then stopped. 188 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,720 As you can imagine it's a pretty frightening sort of thing to happen to you when a patient 189 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:34,040 explodes on the operating table and there was a stunned silence initially and we then 190 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,360 checked and we checked the patient, we checked all his vital signs and we checked the inside 191 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,720 of the stomach but in fact because the gaseous had been coming out of the stomach under pressure 192 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,960 when they'd ignited fortunately there was no damage to the patient and we carried on 193 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,680 with the operation and the patient did very well afterwards. 194 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,760 But when we published this paper in the British Medical Journal I then got a whole sheaf of 195 00:16:54,760 --> 00:17:00,560 letters from other doctors, particularly elderly doctors who'd seen this occurrence on several 196 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:06,400 occasions in the past and there are some lovely letters here from surgeons and GPs, from a 197 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,560 soldier who was under my care in 1941 who was rude enough to belch whilst lighting a cigarette 198 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,560 and the resulting flash and explosion seriously disturbed his comrades. 199 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,280 So obviously it's like a lot of things in medicine we were only rediscovering what people 200 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,600 had known about in the past. 201 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,920 Organisms can proliferate and produce methane which is obviously flammable. 202 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,880 If you then ignite it with a spark like I did then that's not spontaneous combustion, 203 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,080 that's ordinary combustion. 204 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,560 John Hamer developed his own theory about spontaneous human combustion while he was 205 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,400 a Scenes of Crime officer with Gwent police in Wales. 206 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:52,080 Two deaths, only three weeks and 15 miles apart inspired him. 207 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,400 It was the coincidence that the two cases got me really going. 208 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,000 You had the same pile of ashes, the burning was the same and the burn line went straight 209 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,560 across from one leg to the other. 210 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:07,280 That's what got me interested and started me on actually investigating other cases. 211 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,320 In the first case in January 1980 at Ebu Vale, Sergeant Terry Russell was called to 212 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:19,800 a house where a 73 year old man had died in a fire. 213 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:28,200 My immediate thoughts on seeing the deceased was that this was not an ordinary death. 214 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:33,040 There was no external damage, there were no windows broken. 215 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,240 We entered a living room of the premises. 216 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:41,000 It was a site that will never ever really leave me. 217 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,720 I found it totally fascinating. 218 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,800 All law to the relatives it must have been really devastating and gruesome. 219 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:57,560 Well as you see here is a sketch I made just after the event actually which shows the lack 220 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,840 of damage to other materials in the room. 221 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:08,120 This was the remains of a 73 year old man who had been reduced to ash on the floor of 222 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:09,120 his living room. 223 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:16,280 A pair of glasses were lying on the edge of the grate, totally undamaged and perfectly 224 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,280 clean. 225 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,920 The fire was out in the grate, the dead coals tidy. 226 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:28,280 I had heard the term spontaneous human combustion but never really given it much thought. 227 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:34,080 When seeing the site that I saw on that day I now believe that this kind of thing is a 228 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:40,280 possibility and there are certainly some questions which haven't been answered to my satisfaction 229 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:45,920 in relation to that death. 230 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:53,360 The next case, only 27 days later, came at Newport, the county town. 231 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:59,920 This time an old woman had died, Inspector Colin Durham investigated. 232 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:07,320 There was a report of fatality as a result of fire at a house in Corporation Road and 233 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:19,400 this poor old lady, she was reduced to ashes except for two lower parts of both legs and 234 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:26,000 this was amazing to me to see a body in such a condition. 235 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,520 The most abnormal thing about it was that there was nothing in the room damaged. 236 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:37,480 There's no doubt that it was a case of a human body catching fire and it was called spontaneous 237 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,480 human combustion. 238 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,640 I have no doubt at all. 239 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:48,000 But I eventually started thinking about it and the difficulty was that your bodies laden 240 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:54,040 with water, the average ten stone body contains ten gallons of water being reduced to ashes 241 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,120 in circumstances where normal combustible materials cease to burn. 242 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:02,280 That is an impossibility but it happened. 243 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:08,400 I realised that the water must be the source of the fuel. 244 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:14,320 John Hamer believes that by some as yet unknown alchemy, water in the body can be split into 245 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,840 oxygen and hydrogen to concoct a highly flammable mixture. 246 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:26,440 Now hydrogen burning in oxygen burns with a fierce blue flame and will cut through steel 247 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,720 and steel melts at 1500 degrees centigrade. 248 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:35,640 Now that sort of flame could indeed reduce a corpse to ashes without releasing enough 249 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,840 oxygen to sustain burning elsewhere in the room and it will also explain a lack of water. 250 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:46,920 Now I have no belief in spontaneous human combustion as a paranormal or supernatural 251 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,240 event. 252 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:54,360 It is an entirely natural event, the mechanism of which we do not yet understand. 253 00:21:54,360 --> 00:22:00,280 The scientists rather stomach churning experiments show that most of these cases do have a rational 254 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,280 explanation. 255 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,840 There's usually some source of ignition near the victim, perhaps a cigarette or a faulty 256 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,080 electrical appliance. 257 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:15,440 Some cases still seem to defy explanation and leave me with a creepy and very unscientific 258 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,440 feeling. 259 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:24,520 If there's anything more to SHC, I simply don't want to know. 260 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,720 In Ticonderoga in New York, the men of the volunteer fire brigade are still baffled by 261 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:36,360 the untimely death of one of their number. 262 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:42,640 George Mott was a non-smoker, famously cautious about fire, yet he burned to nothing in his 263 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:48,920 log cabin in the woods in 1986. 264 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,360 Kendall Mott used to get a call from his father every day. 265 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:56,520 When the phone didn't ring, Kendall went to check on him. 266 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,240 The door handle was warm when I grabbed the door handle, it was unlocked. 267 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,520 So I knew right then I opened the door I could tell it wasn't whole inside the house 268 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,520 was black. 269 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,320 Of course there was no lights because electricity was out, it would burn out. 270 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,040 So I knew something would happen but you couldn't see anything. 271 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,560 So we went and called the state troopers, Dickel Valley, come down. 272 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:26,280 The first room that we walked into was nothing too much out of the ordinary other than I 273 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:36,320 couldn't help but notice as I looked around that the walls were slightly brownish colored 274 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:41,360 and appeared that the place had been subjected to intense heat. 275 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:47,040 The TV was melted, the guns on the wall were all charred, the refrigerator was all black. 276 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:52,360 Everything was black, it was just like it had really been hot but hadn't quite burnt. 277 00:23:52,360 --> 00:24:03,800 In the bedroom itself there was a single bed with a dresser adjacent to it as I remember 278 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:13,520 and the mattress had been burned through and the floor which was wooden structure below 279 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:22,840 the bed was burned through and there were some fragments of bones and possibly a skull 280 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,360 as I remember lying on the floor beneath the bed. 281 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:30,280 He hadn't smoked for quite a while and there was a sign on the door that said no smoking 282 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:35,920 in the house because he had lost the use of one of his lungs a long time ago. 283 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:41,160 All the signs indicated that there had been an extreme amount of heat but nothing had 284 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:48,800 caused anything to ignite and the only thing that had burned itself was George Mont's body. 285 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:58,360 There was the theory of the spontaneous combustion theory that possibly the body may have ignited 286 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:06,840 itself for whatever reason and consumed itself through extreme heat. 287 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:13,320 Other than that, putting that aside I don't think that there's too many other plausible 288 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,240 explanations for it that I can think of. 289 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:20,000 Well he was a fireman for quite a while, he was pretty picky as to you know, letting 290 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:27,440 and leaving things around you know, but I don't know, I don't think it was fire, I just 291 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,640 think it was like they said spontaneous combustion, I don't see any other answer for it. 292 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,840 Thank you. 293 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,840 Thank you. 294 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,840 Thank you. 295 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,840 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